You’re somehow looking for the borders of pop with your new sound. Do you think you’ve found the edge of pop music on your first record?
That’s a good question! I think the internet and social media really have expanded what pop music means because pop music just means popular music and has this special songwriting-structure. If I’m looking at artists like Charli, she’s twisting pop in a really cool way and I think being able to do what you like has been an inspiration for me. I took music that was literally popular when I was young and put it in a pop-writing structure.
What was really important for this record was that all the melodies were good. That’s my thing because I didn’t want it to be this self-serving ‘look I’m going experimental’ sort of thing. I was more thinking about what the lyrics and melodies wanted to say, and kind of go from there.
Speaking of Charli XCX, you’re good friends with her. Can you spill some tea about a possible collaboration?
We haven’t discussed anything recently. We actually did have a song together on her last record but it didn’t make it onto the tracklist. We’ll see maybe on her new record. Collaborations are something Charlie does really well and I can’t wait to collaborate on her record hopefully.
With my debut record, I decided to collaborate with producers instead of artists because that’s also the kind of artist I am. I don’t like doing collaborations unless the song needs it or I really like the artist or they’ve got a top 10-hit (laughs).
You’ve often talked about your love for technology. Does that come forward on the album in your opinion?
I’m not sure if that’s the case on this album. Technology and the internet were my big fascination in 2017 and I was hanging around with people who made art out of it so that’s where it came from. However, this album is more about my fascination of family and identity.
In terms of music, SAWAYAMA isn’t really about technology but besides that, I’m a total nerd. I’ve spent the whole last month updating my studio.