Maxim Meyer-Horn

5 Apr 2023
Music

Introducing nullzwei: the German Duo Conquering the World With Their Debut Single “Jesus In Berlin”

It is not often that artists score a viral hit straight away with their first single, but TikTok gave German duo nullzwei a nice boost, resulting in almost five million streams. “Jesus In Berlin” became an instant hit on TikTok thanks to its references to the German capital’s infamous club scene, both music- and lyric-wise, which made us curious to know who the two masterminds behind the success were. So we met up with Bertha and Chris in Berlin, where we engaged in literal and figurative self-reflection together.

How would you introduce yourself to people that aren’t familiar with who you are?

Bertha: We had to answer questions for an interview yesterday, and it was the question we answered last because we didn’t really know what we should say.

Chris: To begin with, we just made the song as a project for university without any specific intentions behind it. Once we figured out that people liked it, we realized that we needed to release it. On my solo project, I lean more towards acoustic, sad boy pop, while she makes indie pop-rock. It’s totally different from what we were used to making.

Bertha: Exactly, so if we have to introduce ourselves, we would say that we’re very new to the scene as we started two months ago. Musically, I would say that we make alternative dance music. It’s a bit edgy, speedy, and spicy.

Since your solo projects are quite different from your new project, would you say that there are elements of that in nullzwei?

Chris: The way we create music is different from the way dance music is usually made. We don’t use a specific structure that’s typical for dance music, like build-ups. We work more with pop structures.

Bertha: I make very annoying pop melodies that you can’t get out of your head. (laughs) I already liked to include spoken word in my music and asked Chris if he wanted to do the backings on a track, which turned out super cool. We combined the best things of our solo projects and brought them together in a different musical setting.

Chris: Exactly! We brought together our strengths and made it work.

Your song “Jesus In Berlin” became a viral hit. If you went out tonight in Berlin and met Jesus in a club. What would you tell him?

Bertha: I would say that he should continue with everything he’s done so far and that he should do promo in heaven. We would also probably say thank you for the viral hit.

The song has now almost five million streams. How is it to see a song that almost happened accidentally become such a hit?

Bertha: I think it’s the way everybody would want it to go because you see that the fun ideas always win. That’s what motivates us in this commercialized music world, where there’s always a lot of pressure.

Chris: It’s also crazy because we have both already been releasing music for three-four years and see how difficult it is to reach audiences. You start to think about what you did wrong all these years after having a surprise hit with a song you made for fun without any expectations.

Bertha: It’s not that we made a song overnight and didn’t have to work to achieve what we have now. We worked super hard to get here, but it was the most amazing way to start our year.

You’re still actively promoting the song on TikTok with creations. How important is it to create new narratives for your songs?

Bertha: Marketing-wise, you just need to do it. In the beginning, I had a bit of a distance from TikTok because I didn’t know how to use it. Once you get in the flow, you start to get funny ideas you just want to create. It’s also just our way of communicating.

Chris: Bertha creates a lot of concepts and expands the idea of the song in new creations. It’s a bit like a puzzle, where you can connect all the pieces and be creative. 

How did you feel when the first music professionals started to reach out?

Chris: It was surreal for us when we got so many messages from management and labels with requests after “Jesus In Berlin” started to blow up.

Bertha: It really was the most surreal thing ever. We were already the happiest on earth after the first three emails, but then we got twelve a day. It was so cool to see how much interest there was and that people see potential in it.

What did you think once you saw the massive response from the music industry?

Chris: Initially, we were more like, “Okay, now we have to continue with it.” But once we talked with them, we saw that they see more in the project than in this first song.

Bertha: Exactly. It would be crazy to release something that matches the success of “Jesus in Berlin” this year, but I don’t think too much about it to keep my expectations low. I trust our good ideas, and we’ll see what happens. We have so many notes on our phones with ideas for future songs. Of course, we’d love to continue on the level of “Jesus in Berlin”, but we need to be realistic and know that it won’t be easy. It feels a bit like a rollercoaster. One day, we think that we can conquer the world. The next day, we start to overthink.

Chris: Yes, we have our ups and downs, but the only way is up. The excitement is always there when we make new songs, and we just feel that it clicks.

How do you look at the upcoming months?

Chris: We’re trying to build on the hype for the moment, so we’re currently in exchange with different artists for remixes of the song. We’re also releasing new interpretations of the song because the options are limitless.

Bertha: We’re also working on new songs because we only have five, at the moment. We need some more songs to get on stage and perform. The end goal of the moment is to have a live show where we can connect with people in real life instead of just building relations with people online. We can’t wait to get on stage and see people sing the song back to us.

Chris: We’re really waiting for the moment when people start to recognize us in the streets and ask us if we’re the guys of “Jesus In Berlin”. That will be the moment when we realize that the hype is real. For the moment, we only see numbers and can’t really put a finger on who’s listening.

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