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2 May 2021
Music

KTJ & Carly: “We Really Try Staying Away From Writing About Love”

KTJ & Carly aren’t just identical twins but are best friends that share a huge love for music. With influences from a.o. EDM, pop, R&B, or rock, their sound captures a dynamic, feel-good vibe that always gets us in the right mood. To celebrate the release of their most recent single “Rollercoaster“, we caught up with the sisters via Zoom to have a heart-to-heart chat about songwriting and sisterhood.

You’re quite new to the scene, so people don’t have as many expectations compared to when you have a big hit. Does that allow you to experiment with your sound?

KTJ: Totally! It doesn’t give us any pressure to mess up, honestly, which is crucial to finding yourself and your sound and all of that jazz. 

Carly: There’s not any pressure to, you know, fit a box or a mold that people expect of us. Honestly, it’s just really fun. That way, we get to write what we want and, you know, make any music we want right now.  

And you write and produce your songs yourself. How do you start working on a song?

KTJ: Recently, we’ve been starting with the production, and then we’ll randomly start singing random melodies and come up with the concept. 

Carly: Honestly, it’s different every time. Sometimes we’ll write stuff on the piano and produce it out later or will write it on the guitar, produce it out later and then sometimes we have lyric and melody ideas and then we … It falls all out of order sometimes, but usually it ends up being produced eventually. 

KTJ: And then it also depends on who we’re writing with too. It’s different every time. It’s really fun.  

Carly: But lately, it’s been production first and then writing lyrics on after. 

And I hope I’m right with this one, but I’ve read that you’re identical twins. I’m a twin as well, so how is it for you to share all these moments? Okay, it must be difficult to answer that question if you’re next to each other, so you can’t be mean about it. (laughs)

KTJ:No, it’s … Honestly, it has its ups and downs for sure. 

Carly: But as a twin, you know, we have a bond that’s completely unbreakable. We trust each other, which I think is super important in any band. So, because we have that trust, we are able to create something truthful and meaningful. I think we wouldn’t wanna do it with anyone else. (laughs)

How would you describe your relationship? Is it more like friendship, or is it more than that?

KTJ: We are best friends. 

Carly: Yeah, we’re best friends. I mean, we have been since we were born pretty much. But yeah, we’re best friends. 

One thing I don’t enjoy about being a twin is that people often compare me and my twin with one another because they think we’re identical. Is it the same for you?

Carly: Yeah, it’s honestly like a giant identity crisis because people often don’t … People don’t say our names. They’ll just say “the twins”. People treat us as if we are one person rather than individuals. I felt like we never really experienced that individuality until we were separated. It was three months when we were eighteen: I was in Pittsburgh, and she was in New York. 

KTJ: It was so weird. I was like my own person. (laughs)

Last year you put out the EP Identity, was that a turning point in your life as it was the first bigger project you put out?

KTJ: Totally. It was our first body of work, so it’s kind of our first …

Carly: Mark. 

KTJ: Yeah, I guess, like our body of work in our journey of …

Carly: Finding ourselves and finding our sound, but we are constantly growing and learning every day. We wanted to make something that was a testament to that. By that, I mean the lyrics too, because the whole thing is about finding yourself. So yeah, it’s definitely had a big impact on ourselves as humans and artists.

What are the most common themes you write songs about, or what’s the theme you feel most comfortable with?

Carly: We really try staying away from writing about love because it’s so easy to do that.

KTJ: I feel like we both really value deep conversation and interesting concepts. 

Carly: And a lot of self-infliction, you know, a lot of inner monologue songs. We’ve been doing that a lot lately. It’s so easy to write about love. We do write about that love, but we try to keep some variety. 

Yeah, I get that. You just put out a song today called “Rollercoaster”. What do you want to address in that song?

KTJ: All relationships and every emotion you feel it’s not gonna be a straight line. It’s up and down. It’s gonna have crazy turns and whatnot, but at the end of the ride, it was all part of the big picture. The big rollercoaster. 

Carly: We were inspired by that. We know a lot of people in our lives that kind of take us through an emotional roller coaster. Sometimes the highs are so good, and the lows are so bad that it doesn’t make up for it. So, you either have to let them go or stick it out and see if they get better.  

KTJ: There’s a Bob Marley quote that stood out to me after thinking of the song: “Everyone’s going to hurt you in some way, but you just have to find the ones that are worth suffering for.” I don’t know, but that quote really resonated with the song in that way.  

Yeah, that’s a beautiful quote, and if you could visualize your life at the moment as a roller coaster, where would you situate yourself? Is it on a high, or are you just going down? 

Carly: We’re on the rise right before the drop. We’re not quite up there yet, but we’re slowly coming. (laughs)

KTJ: The fragments of the song are shown through as you go up. It’s like: “Oh we’re almost there! Oh, wait … Oh, no!” (laughs) 

Your manager told me that you do a lot of writing sessions online. How is it to work online?

KTJ: At first, it was hard—everyone can relate to that because everything was shifted online all of a sudden. But as we figured it out, it’s honestly been so eye-opening because you can just work with anyone. I mean, I’m doing this interview right now!

Carly: Yeah, we’ve been writing with people all over the world: Denmark, Norway, London, Germany, Canada … Obviously, in-person sessions are better just because you get a human connection. It’s easier to work that way with technology—when you’re recording something, or you have an idea. But at the same time, I think it’s really nice because we don’t have to leave our house. I’m kind of a homebody anyway, so I’m like, “Okay, I’ll stay home!” (laughs) We get to write with so many more people, so at the end of the day, I don’t mind it. I think it’s great, and it’s efficient. It’s almost easier, but there’s something amazing about doing it in person, so I would love for that to kick back in soon.

You’re very used to working together. Do you think that in the future you might work on solo projects, or do you think you will always work together?

Carly: I don’t know. I mean, I think we’ll always be a project together regardless. 

KTJ: We do write our own music, though. Sometimes she will write her own songs, and I‘ll write my own, but we always just kind of bring them together because we both feel like it’s better to have both of our ideas. 

Carly: Yeah, I mean, I think the only way that would happen would be through an act because we also are actors. If that were to happen, it would be something kind of separate from our project. But no, we’ll always do stuff together, though, ‘cuz it’s more fun that way. (laughs)

You just released “Cherry Coke” now you’ve put out “Rollercoaster”, what are the next steps you’re taking?

Carly: We have a couple more singles coming out, and we have a couple more music videos coming out, which is super exciting. We’re scoring our first feature film—it’s called God Save the Queens—and it’s a story about drag queens on and off the stage. It’s directed by Jordan Danger. They’re finally in post-production, so we get to start doing that, which is super exciting. 

KTJ: We’re so excited!  

Carly: And we got to write one of the drag queen songs, which is super out of our comfort zone, but it was really fun! (laughs) It was super vulgar, but we had a lot of fun making it because it was just so out of our comfort zone. So, we’re really excited to do that this year and then we’re gonna start working on our EP that we’re releasing in 2022. That’s kind of everything we have in the works so far. 

Talking about drag queens, are you watching RuPaul’s Drag Race, or where you familiar with drag queens?

Carly: I never watched RuPaul, and I never was super into—I mean, obviously I knew of the big ones, but you know … Did you watch RuPaul? (looks at KTJ)

KTJ: I’ve started, yeah.

Carly: All my best friends are obsessed with it, so I’m probably going to start it inevitably. I mean, ever since we started this, we just now kind of got into it so … I love it! I love it so much, and I went to my first drag show before Covid happened. It was so fun! (laughs) 

Interview by Maxim Meyer-Horn
Text by Mira Van Lierop
Pictures by Jake Pool

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